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PostSubject: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 02, 2008 11:26 am

Found in 24/7 UT server by other players:
unreal://217.118.98.201:7777

Do you guys know who that person is?
I'm suspecting someone like... Tyson... Or weirdos from M>I>N>D>E's countries.
He's been reported to be "extremely good" if you know what I mean...
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 02, 2008 2:36 pm

never heard of him lol Very Happy
but me and blub were playing with this guy named "imanoob" and he completely owned both of us
it was 2v1 and we lost 5-3 Sad
he said he isnt into clans though!! waaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 02, 2008 2:56 pm

Write "SKAHL!!"
When you see some clanless guy owning Razz
If you get response like "SKAHL!!" or "HERODES Very Happy:D" It's another one of my friends Very Happy
He used to run around with raw steel skin. but havn't seen him in looong time Razz

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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 03, 2008 10:26 am

I don't think it's tyson
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2008 1:44 am

lol! i finally got what u meant Lids i needed to come over to find out myself..there is a guy also who puts CoD|Best Gay Clan (lol) and he uses aimbot ... dont worry though Smile
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2008 8:41 am

CoD|HelliQueen wrote:
lol! i finally got what u meant Lids i needed to come over to find out myself..there is a guy also who puts CoD|Best Gay Clan (lol) and he uses aimbot ... dont worry though Smile

cought him one day but he left before i got him... I have my suspections though.
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 12, 2008 4:41 pm

that reminds me of montygomery XD
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 12, 2008 6:29 pm

MyHopesAndDreams wrote:
that reminds me of montygomery XD

Yeah who the hell was that guy? Out of nowhere but rob kicked and renamed him from p0p's request (because he had BLS tag)...
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 12, 2008 6:55 pm

i dont know but now i see hes runnin around without the tag
also who's rob?
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 12, 2008 8:16 pm

Rob is the ultimate admin of ND servers... You will never find him... Cool
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 13, 2008 4:10 am

that montygomery person is a cunt

he put the bls tag in , so i told him to take it out.... he didnt , so i spawnkilled him :/
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 13, 2008 2:21 pm

He's all quiet... I've never seen him before he had the tag... Question
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 17, 2008 4:35 pm

I play whit |BLS|Robson in the server 24/7 UNREAL TOURNAMENT DEATH MATCH
i can touch him only one time
i hope play whit him one more time.
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 17, 2008 4:54 pm

MR.sLeEeCk wrote:
I play whit |BLS|Robson in the server 24/7 UNREAL TOURNAMENT DEATH MATCH
i can touch him only one time
i hope play whit him one more time.

Tell me, how did he kill people? With what weapon?
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 6:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 19, 2008 5:36 pm

|BLS|Lidstrom wrote:
MR.sLeEeCk wrote:
I play whit |BLS|Robson in the server 24/7 UNREAL TOURNAMENT DEATH MATCH
i can touch him only one time
i hope play whit him one more time.

Tell me, how did he kill people? With what weapon?

whit one enforcement
kill me and i was use full armor

he don't miss any shoot

yesterday he enter in the CTF
do one cap and left
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 19, 2008 6:03 pm

Haha enforcer and no missed shots...
He doesn't even use rockets, shock combos and stuff...
Definitely a sign of aimbot...
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 2:10 pm

Aimbotters can't do shock combos(too much) because the bot automatically changes their angle of firing - that's the easiest way to find out if someone is botting.Also they don't miss(they can miss sometimes just to trick you - they can switch the bot on and off).
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 4:02 pm

{Dark}Shadow wrote:
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That's why most cheaters use trigger bots nowadays Wink Tough to spot and you only shoot if you are aiming correctly. For me the best way to determine whether someone is using a trigger bot or is just really skilled, is of course to judge his overall skill (does he dodge etc.?). If that checks out, I keep an eye on the efficiency. This is the ratio between frags/deaths. Trigger users usually don't die very often and as a result tend to have an extremely high efficiency. Note that you will still have missed shots when using this type of bot, either because you did so yourself or because of the delay (or 'lag' Wink) between the trigger bot detecting a perfect hit, the shot being fired and your latency to the server.

Unlike an aimbot, trigger bots won't interfere (much) with normal play. Since it won't aim for you, you can still make combo's and other advanced moves without trouble. Personally I've tested such a bot on a well renowned server for over 30 minutes without anyone raising an eyebrow.. No
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 4:57 pm

Hmmm... You just have to aim and it will shoot automatically when your crosshair is perfectly on the target? I'm still not sure what you really mean...
Damn...
Whoever uses any cheat is just dishonored!
There's another cheat which is "radar"... It's hard to tell unless you are very well hidden with the flag in 3 different locations and the person always happens to find you in no time...
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 5:27 pm

|BLS|Lidstrom wrote:
Hmmm... You just have to aim and it will shoot automatically when your crosshair is perfectly on the target?
That's what I'm saying Cool

|BLS|Lidstrom wrote:
There's another cheat which is "radar"...

Those have been around since day 1 Wink In the old days I used to lay dormant (feign death) in a hidden place in Curse][ and waited for the person I suspected of using a radar to kill me; then I knew for sure. The easiest way to spot radars is when a person has a lot of lucky shots (e.g. killing someone as he/she comes around the corner -- anticipating the shot) or when a player always seems to find someone that is well hidden. But usually I just look for the telltale sign which is too many lucky shots.

Radars also work wonders on sniper servers where I suspect about 80% of the players on a given server use them (not kidding). I'm sure there are radar users on ND too, but as long as they don't give off the telltale signs (a.k.a. they are simply unskilled Wink) it can take a while before they are caught.

Most common cheats are:
+ Aimbot
+ Triggerbot
+ Radar
+ Speedhack

The last one hasn't been discussed yet: it's simply making UT run a tad faster so you can run faster and shoot faster than the other players. The following combination of anticheats when configured correctly, will catch almost all publicly available cheats:

UTPure
UTDC
AnthChecker

UTPure detects the old cheats written in UT's scripting language. UTDC detects external hook based cheats. These are programs that run independently of UT and "hijack" UT to inject their program code. AnthChecker verifies the integrity of UTPure, UTDC and other packages to ensure they haven't been modified. Without AnthChecker you can use hacked versions of UTPure and UTDC which no longer detect cheats, but allow you to play the server anyway.

The reason I do not run these is because all of them require all clients to use UTv436. Besides that, they are notorious (especially UTDC) for causing player crashes for a minority of players... basically blocking them out of the game entirely. So it's really a trade off. I've decided to manually detect cheaters and offer a place that Works 4 Everyone Cool Cool
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 8:27 pm

I have a lot of what people call "Lucky shots"... But I go by the sound of their foot steps / xloc / hook / weapons shots / items picked up/ the sound emitted by the person jumping / getting shot...
Sometimes I simply make guess shots...
So people who play like me can be as "smart" as a radar... Laughing Laughing Laughing I know Shai relies on the sound a lot too... and it's useful... We can't play as good when our volume is low... Razz
So I still think it's hard to know who's using radar and who's not... Some players kill "feign death" people from a guess... Even if it's a real corpse, they shoot at it anyway so it's scary to feign death on them... Also, some real death positions are not included in the "feign death" positions hahaha... I know them... I dunno exactly why but it becomes obvious if you play often and encounter a lot of people who use feign death... You know there's something weird with the corpse... or sometimes you just know it right away... Rarely, some "feign death" (depending where you do it) can look real to experts eyes until they try to step on it but can't... Then they know it's alive... Or when they have a rocket launcher and it goes on "target locked" mode when they are accidentally aiming the fake corpse... <--- That happened to me in far distance...
So it's hard again...
I'd say, if I hide so well in different locations and they find me right away (after making sure no one saw me / following me), then they use radar... Because they obviously didn't take their time to look around for me... They just always come and find me right away in different well hidden spots.
On ND, if we use the hook on some "unreachable areas that no one would expect a human being to be hanging there", well hidden, we don't even shoot or anything to reveal ourselves, like in Lavagiant when we hang in the sky... no one can know we're hidden up there unless:
1. We shoot at them and they try to look for us until they find us
2. They saw the little hook's light while we're trying to hang on the sky which helps them to know there's someone upthere
3. Someone is bored and wants to count the stars in the sky
How can we be sure it's radar or not? I think it's still hard...
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 12:26 am

the ND server have cheaters?
who...
i'v never see a cheater =P
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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 6:47 am

IMHO cheats suck and it's the only way for n00bs to play against skilled players.


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PostSubject: Re: BLS Ronson / Robbson   BLS Ronson / Robbson I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 8:23 am

|BLS|Lidstrom wrote:

So it's hard again...

It's difficult to really convey the detection method of radars in text alone Wink Trust me, radar users can be manually detected.


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